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:icondolsilwa:
Elementary-ish theme for unity and gnome-panel 12.10

Gnome is a horror of every theme developer!! Breaking themes with every update.
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:iconth3r0b:
correction: gnome is a horror for anybody
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:icondolsilwa:
Well, gtk3 is better than gtk2, but GNOME2 was better than GNOME3. I liked how customizable GNOME2 was, but now they even want to drop support for gnome-panel :-/
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:iconwhchaz1027i:
Indeed! A Big Nod to that...
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:iconth3r0b:
wait what? I just thought you said gnome2
was customizable? I must have used a completely
different gnome..... well I can honestly say
that when I saw screenshots from gnome 3 when
it arrived, I didn't even bother and try it.
It looked like it was designed for 12 yr olds
with no experience with computers. Well, from
what I remember gnome-panel has some very nasty
(unfixable?) bugs so it's only natural they
wanna drop the turkey.
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:icondolsilwa:
Maybe in different words - Gnome2 was easy to customize, easier than Gnome3 and easier than kde. And Gnome3 and every other CSS-based shell - they are just pain in the ass. I've used Gnome3 for some time and it was fun, but it's not designed for desktop anymore, it's for tablets and phones. And bugs in gnome-panel aren't unfixable - just no gnome dev is interested in fixing them (but Ikey Doherty from SolusOS is making something with gnome-panel - fork i think, so there is chance that it'll be properly maintained. And maybe mate-panel will go gtk3).
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:iconth3r0b:
Ic, I'm not sure how you mean kde is hard to
customize since it has a graphical option for
almost everything.

As for css, that's actually very easy, so I'm
not sure what you mean by it being hard.

Well, I guess no bug is unfixable, however, might
require a lot of code re-write and the code base
might be hard to maintain as is so I understand
completely if they wanna dump gnome-panel.

I'm not sure why you absolutely want gnome-panel
either, since gnome3 has something that looks just
like it.
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:icondolsilwa:
If KDE is so easy to customize, then why most of screenshots of kde is just recoloured oxygen (sometimes with changed window boarder).

And if CSS is so easy then why there is so little themes for Gtk3? We have few like 20? 25 good themes, and themes for 3.2 don't work with 3.4 and 3.4 don't work with 3.6 and 3.6 don't work with freakin 3.6.2 (which is just plain stupid).

And i know that some bugs can lie deep in code, but the only annoing bug in gnome-panel is lack of proper transparency, which worked in 2.x and worked in 3.2 and they broke somethin in 3.4 and didn't fixed it because they assumed that noone use gnome-panel anymore - which by the way don't act like gnome-shell panel, and you can use ubuntu applets with it.
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:iconth3r0b:
I guess you haven't seen the same screenshots I have.
QtCurve is a qt/gtk engine that can pretty much look
like whatever, no coding of anykind involved, nice
graphical thing so any idiot can manage. Bespin is
a experimental engine with lots of features, same
thing there... nice gui so any idiot can manage.

Oh and that gtk question is easy: because gtk/gnome
sucks :) ....which you pretty much also concluded
yourself there :D

proper transparency? argb support? ubuntu applets...
...well, now you need to say no more... ubuntu applets..
sighs.
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:icondolsilwa:
I can admit that Gnome is shitty now. But it was very good DE not so long ago. And i don't mean gnome-shell - which i don't like, or unity. Classic gnome with panels was in my opinion perfect, and you could transform it into whatever you like. And i used KDE, and it's very nice DE, seen QtCurve themes on KDE look and they were not very impressive, seen bespin themes, and yes they were impressive (yup i've seen your gallery and your desktop screenshots are beautyful) but i can't say that finding informations about customizing kde is that idiotically simple.
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:iconnenelinux:
can you share the wallpaper please??
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